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:::While you don't see the usefulness of first person on a wiki site, there's room for debate. Certainly all of the editors who create new accounts and edit in the first person seem to disagree with you. -- [[User:Irningston|Irningston]] ([[User talk:Irningston|talk]]) 22:00, 9 May 2013 (CEST)
:::: Consensus is determined by those who actually stick around and discuss the matter, not people who create accounts, make a few hasty changes without researching Hitchwiki style, and then disappear. I've asked [[User:guaka]], the founder of Hitchwiki, to post here. He'll attest too that a preference for third-person writing goes back years. [[User:CRCulver|CRCulver]] ([[User talk:CRCulver|talk]]) 02:16, 10 May 2013 (CEST)
:::::Who wouldn't stick around after receiving such a friendly welcome? But in order to "stick around ''and discuss the matter''", there needs to be an atmosphere of openness to discussion and a place where that discussion can take place. How is one supposed to research Hitchwiki style? [[User:Irningston|Irningston]] ([[User talk:Irningston|talk]]) 17:40, 10 May 2013 (CEST)
::Hi Irningston. Think about someone else coming in who wants to improve an article? First person writing just doesn't work so well on a wiki. It's common wiki sense to avoid it and there's definitely a consensus on this among active long-term editors. It's okay to add stories in a first person writing, as a specifically marked section of the page, e.g. as in [[Panama City]]. Otherwise it's much better to write in 3rd person and link to your user page (tip: write something on it :) [[User:Guaka|guaka]] ([[User talk:Guaka|talk]]) 02:23, 10 May 2013 (CEST)
:::But where's this consensus? I don't see any discussion or anything. Is it all happening on different user_talk pages? Or off-wiki? I expect more openness and transparency than just being told, "All the people who've been here a long time agree. Look, even the founder of the wiki will tell you so." Above, CRCulver complains of people who don't research Hitchwiki style, but there's literally no where to do that besides the articles themselves. [[User:Irningston|Irningston]] ([[User talk:Irningston|talk]]) 17:40, 10 May 2013 (CEST)
